7.30.2008

Todd Bentley event....very sad.....

While there, the good people of Reformed Evangelist preached outside a Todd Bentley event and you can see how the people reacted. He even put up a sound bite of one of the people who came up to talk to him.

Here's a pic of some of the people's responses


Here's a few excerpts:
One-by-one, the hecklers left the line to engage me and the others on my team. Some were reasonable and kind. Others, like the “event staff” person in my face, in the above photo, ranted and raved like so many of the “unbelievers” we face every day on the streets.

The hecklers for my second open-air were every bit as angry as the first group, and as angry as any group of “unbelievers” I have ever faced.

The angry man in the above photo rebuked me as if he were attempting to cast a demon from me. Imagine: a professing Christian thinking that a man preaching the Law and the Gospel is demon-possessed.

Also listen to the audio clip he posted along with his article.

Obama the Unknown



We may know what people are for or against and what they say. As important as these things are, we must also take a look at what they've done. An op-ed piece from today's Washington Post by columnist Richard Cohen gives us some insight as to why that is.

Obama the Unknown
By Richard Cohen
Tuesday, July 29, 2008; Page A17

"Just tell me one thing Barack Obama has done that you admire," I asked a prominent Democrat. He paused and then said that he admired Obama's speech to the Democratic convention in 2004. I agreed. It was a hell of a speech, but it was just a speech.

On the other hand, I continued, I could cite four or five actions -- not speeches -- that John McCain has taken that elicit my admiration, even my awe. First, of course, is his decision as a Vietnam prisoner of war to refuse freedom out of concern that he would be exploited for propaganda purposes. To paraphrase what Kipling said about Gunga Din, John McCain is a better man than most.

But I would not stop there. I would include campaign finance reform, which infuriated so many in his own party; opposition to earmarks, which won him no friends; his politically imprudent opposition to the Medicare prescription drug bill (Medicare has about $35 trillion in unfunded obligations); and, last but not least, his very early call for additional troops in Iraq. His was a lonely position -- virtually suicidal for an all-but-certain presidential candidate and no help when his campaign nearly expired last summer. In all these cases, McCain stuck to his guns.

Obama argues that he himself stuck to the biggest gun of all: opposition to the war. He took that position when the war was enormously popular, the president who initiated it was even more popular and critics of both were slandered as unpatriotic. But at the time, Obama was a mere Illinois state senator, representing the (very) liberal Hyde Park area of Chicago. He either voiced his conscience or his district's leanings or (lucky fella) both. We will never know.
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And we will never know, either, how Obama might have conducted himself had he served in Congress as long as McCain has. Possibly he would have earned a reputation for furious, maybe even sanctimonious, integrity of the sort that often drove McCain's colleagues to dark thoughts of senatorcide, but the record -- scant as it is -- suggests otherwise. Obama is not noted for sticking to a position or a person once that position or person becomes a political liability. (Names available upon request.)

All politicians change their positions, sometimes even because they have changed their minds. McCain must have suffered excruciating whiplash from totally reversing himself on George Bush's tax cuts. He has denounced preachers he later embraced and then, to his chagrin, has had to denounce them all over again. This plasticity has a label: pandering. McCain knows how it's done.

But Obama has shown that in this area, youth is no handicap. He has been for and against gun control, against and for the recent domestic surveillance legislation and, in almost a single day, for a united Jerusalem under Israeli control and then, when apprised of U.S. policy and Palestinian chagrin, against it. He is an accomplished pol -- a statement of both admiration and a bit of regret.

Obama is often likened to John F. Kennedy. The comparison makes sense. He has the requisite physical qualities -- handsome, lean, etc. -- plus wit, intelligence, awesome speaking abilities and a literary bent. He also might be compared to Franklin D. Roosevelt for many of those same qualities. Both FDR and JFK were disparaged early on by their contemporaries for, I think, doing the difficult and making it look easy. Eleanor Roosevelt, playing off the title of Kennedy's Pulitzer Prize-winning book, airily dismissed him as more profile than courage. Similarly, it was Walter Lippmann's enduring misfortune to size up FDR and belittle him: Roosevelt, he wrote, was "a pleasant man who, without any important qualifications for office, would very much like to be president." Lippmann later recognized that he had underestimated Roosevelt.

My guess is that Obama will make a fool of anyone who issues such a judgment about him. Still, the record now, while tissue thin, is troubling. The next president will have to be something of a political Superman, a man of steel who can tell the American people that they will have to pay more for less -- higher taxes, lower benefits of all kinds -- and deal in an ugly way when nuclear weapons seize the imagination of madmen.

The question I posed to that prominent Democrat was just my way of thinking out loud. I know that Barack Obama is a near-perfect political package. I'm still not sure, though, what's in it.

7.29.2008

More Todd Bently and Jim Carrey!

see this video and can't help but think of


THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We laugh. But notice that in the first video the gentleman pulls out his bible to see where we could ever find an instance of anyone doing such things to heal someone. Yep, I dare say the reason people go to these places is because they have not opened their Bible to get informed on what real revival is and when and how healing does or doesn't happen. I lay the blame on Pastors who have not done their duty to be discerning. I also blame these guys that stalk on people's hopes that maybe they can get out of their pain and suffering. My prayers go out to them.

Cool Website: Mygazines


Well, as many of you know I am an info junkie. Too much for my own good really. However, when I find something interesting I do like to share it with you. A very cool (though possibly legally shaky) web-site called mygazines has emerged. Mygazines is a page where you can browse online through todays most recent magazines. Want to read Entertainment Weekly without having to stand in line at the check out counter? Look for it here. The coolest thing is that it has archives of Time magazine. You can browse through old articles. The sad part is that as I searched, I could find no theology or Christian magazines. Well, I'm going to write a strongly worded email to them about it. Pick a magazine, and zoom in to read. I had fun browsing through Mad magazine while I was on. Fun stuff. Enjoy.

7.27.2008

Prayer Requests

From time to time there are things that I feel the need to ask for you my viewers prayer for.
1. My friend Jonathan (and his big head)
He's on his way back froma month long missions trip in Taiwan. Here's the vid he made.
He has said that coming back might be hard tommorow because of a typhoon. So pray he and his team make it back ok.


2. My health. After my trip I've noticed I will have to get used to sleeping on a bed. My back is somewhat sore from sleeping on a hard wood floor. Also my voice is kind of hoarse from all the interpreting I did this week. I had to raise my voice for the crowds to hear me.

3. Glenn. My pal (link is on the side) is going through a tough time and you can read about it at his blog if you wish.

4. FCC. Many things are being reported. Not sure what to make of it, but I love those guys and thin its one of my favorite churches ever. Pray for the whole pastoral staff and the members.
5. The BOOK! Ok, It is still in limbo, but I think something is salvageable and will be talking about it to my boss.


Praise Reports
On another note I have some praise reports.
1. The trip went well and I made some new friends. I also got some pretty cool perspective on my life and I almost feel like someone (we know who don't we?) hit the reset button.
2. My friend Mig is working on a comic book. Yay!
3. My mom got a car, so now my sister may be able to drive herself around sooner. Yay!
4. I'm alive and doing well.

Our respectable heresies.....

OK class, what's wrong with this?

7.26.2008

Back from Mexico!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm rather tired, so I won't be long here, but it went well. Don't get me wrong, it was hard, but it was worth it. I got tanned and had to eat Korean food when I wasn't used to it. The schedule was strict and my voice is hoarse from all the interpreting I had to do, but it was worth it. I got to help preach the gospel to a lot of little kids and their parents. Some days were crazier than others. The last two days went surprisingly well. God moved in wonderful ways and on the last day something fascinating did happen. We finished our VBS lesson and handed out burgers to the neighborhood people, and one of the ladies came up to me and asked for prayer for 4 year old son. He had gone through chemotherapy and had a huge scar on his head where the tumor was removed. This week hes going to be checked on to see how he's doing. We were all moved and we prayed for him. The most quiet of us was moved. Our doctor happened to be a neurosurgeon in Los Angeles. He's offered to help if the prognosis is bad. She was so relieved. Coincidence? I think not. God truly moves in mysterious ways. Do I get a lot of what I saw? The poverty, the lack of hygiene? No, but I was truly made aware of the simple pleasures of life and the gratefulness we should show for this country and it's well working sewer system and warm water. I'll add more about this in the future.

7.19.2008

William Dembski on Todd Bently and faith healing


One of my more thoughtful readers (and I appreciate those) asked me about the fact there are other faiths that have faith healers. Does this mean that we don't pray for healing at church anymore? And I have to agree that she makes a point. I think we should be careful. However, it is because we are called to call on God and God alone to perform mighty deeds, that we must be careful when someone doing (and saying) some pretty wacky stuff (like Mr. Bentley does HERE and HERE) in the name of Christ. It's called discernment. Keep in mind in that in the Old Testament we are warned against being false witnesses, Jesus warns of false Christs, Paul warns of false brothers and flase gospels and the book of Revelation warns of false signs wonders and false prophets. That is the danger we are warned to avoid. Evidence of this is in the following story from Intelligent Design proponent and mathematician William Dembski. He went to Florida and took his autistic son. His insights are not surprising, and yet saddening. Here's what he had to say:


FORT WORTH, Texas (BP)--Todd Bentley's healing ministry has gained national attention. His daily meetings for the past three months in Lakeland, Fla., have attracted hundreds of thousands from all over the world. The press has begun to question Bentley's legitimacy -- Is his financial accounting above board? Are miracles really happening? I want to raise some more personal concerns.

On July 3, my wife, three children and I attended Bentley's "impartation service" in Denton, Texas, north of Dallas. Why? We have twin 7-year-old boys, one of whom is autistic (largely nonverbal, still not fully toilet trained, serious developmental delays). Friends urged that we attend the meeting for his miraculous healing.

Call us stubborn, but my wife and I are unimpressed with doctors who see our son's condition as hopeless. We believe that God still heals and that His means of healing include conventional medicine, alternative medicine, prayer, fasting, love and, yes, miracles. In any case, we haven't given up on our son's recovery (we still remember the day when he was developmentally on track). So if God wanted to use Todd Bentley, we were open to it.

As faith healers go, Bentley is unconventional. Exhibiting black shirt, baggy jeans, tattoos and piercings, he prefers grunge to Gucci. But his appearance wasn't a problem for my wife or me. God in the Bible used many unconventional people. The problem for us was the manipulation, hype and agenda that seemed to pervade the meeting.

It was a 130-mile drive for my family to get to the meeting. When we called the organizers, they urged us to get there by 3 p.m. even though the meeting didn't start till 7 p.m. The venue (a basketball arena) seated 8,500 people, yet the organizers told us to expect 14,000 people to show up. So the only way to be sure of getting a seat was to get there early.

We therefore piled the kids into the minivan early afternoon, arriving around 4:30. At 6:30, after sitting for two hours, the arena was about three-quarters full. One of the organizers then announced that traffic was backed up for miles around Denton and that several thousand were trying to get into the meeting, most of whom would have to be turned away. This was sheer hype. A significant block of seats (at least 20 percent) were cordoned off and never used throughout the whole night. We could have arrived anytime and still gotten seats. (emphasis mine)

At 7, Keith Miller (the chief organizer, www.sfwm.org) started things off. After prompting the audience to perform ritualistic acts of worship (stand up, raise your hands, say after me ...), he passed the baton to a young woman singer and her backup band. The sound system was terrible -- sounds were loud and distorted. The music was repetitive in the extreme. In almost two hours of this "music ministry," only a handful of songs were sung, and many of them seemed to consist of only one or two phrases. (emphasis mine)

Finally, around 9 p.m. Bentley began to speak. He devoted much of his message to the visions he has received and the miracles he claims have happened in his ministry. Then, almost as an afterthought, he spent a few minutes preaching from the Bible (John 5). In fact, he admitted that he was having us open the Bible simply so that it couldn't be said that he didn't preach from the Bible. So much for reverencing the Scriptures. (ditto)

Nowhere in Bentley's message did I see an emphasis on the love and compassion of God -- that healing is an expression of God's goodness and care for humanity. Rather, the emphasis throughout was on power -- the power to heal and be healed.

Bentley told stories of remarkable healings. In fact, he claims that in his ministry 30 people have now been raised from the dead. Are these stories credible? A common pattern in his accounts of healing was an absence of specificity. Bentley claims that one man, unembalmed, had been dead for 48 hours and was in a coffin. When the family gathered around at a funeral home, the man knocked from inside the coffin to be let out.

But what are the specifics? Who was this man? What's his name? Where's the death certificate? And why not parade the man at Bentley's meetings? If I am ever raised from the dead through anyone's ministry, you can be sure I'll put in a guest appearance. Bentley claims that he is having a team investigate healings performed under his ministry and will soon go public with the evidence. I look forward to seeing it.

After preaching, Bentley took the offering. During the offering he asked "How much anointing do you want to receive?" Thus he linked the blessing we should receive with the amount of money we gave.

After the offering, Bentley said a general prayer for mass healing. People who thought they were healed then came forward. But I saw no obvious or dramatic evidence of healing. After the general prayer for mass healing, Bentley indicated that he would pray for the severest cases.

At this point, a friend who was with us urged that she and my wife take our son with autism down for prayer (I stayed with our other son and daughter). Over an hour later my son with autism was still not able to get to the main floor for prayer. Ushers twice prevented that from happening. They noted that he was not in a wheelchair. Wheelchair cases clearly had priority -- presumably they provided better opportunities for the cameras, which filmed everything. They also invoked the fire marshals, who, they claimed, prohibited too many people on the floor of the arena. But earlier in the service, during the worship time, they had packed the floor with people singing and whooping it up.

After midnight we were told that it would be an hour and a half before our son could get prayer. At that point, we got up and left. Yet the story doesn't end there. When we got to the minivan, our other son remembered that he had left his Bible in the arena. When my wife went back to retrieve it, everybody, including Bentley, had suddenly cleared out. Staying an hour and a half would not have mattered.

Our son was refused prayer twice because he didn't look the part, and he was told to wait still longer for a prayer that would never have been offered. And even those who looked the part seemed to look no better after Bentley's prayer -- the exodus from the arena of people bound in wheelchairs was poignant.

My son's situation was not unique -- a man with bone cancer and his wife traveled a long distance, were likewise refused prayer, and left in tears. People with needs were shortchanged. It seemed that power, prestige and money (in that order) were dominating motives behind the meeting. Minimal time was given to healing, though plenty was devoted to assaulting our senses with blaring insipid music and even to Bentley promoting and selling his own products (books and CDs). (emphasis mine)

Neither my wife nor I regret going. It was an education. Our kids are resilient. But the ride home raised a question. We found ourselves avoiding talking about the event until the children fell asleep. Then, as they drifted off in the early morning, we talked in hushed tones about how easily religion can be abused, in this case to exploit our family. What do we tell our children? I'm still working on that one.
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William A. Dembski is research professor of philosophy at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.