You might be New Reformed

(...know who this is?)

TIm Challies posted a rather funny piece on what it means to be emergent. In response, I think it would be nice to see a contrast between Emergents and New Reformed (Resurgent, Calvinists the Next Generation-what could it be?)

Old Dead Guys
Ours : Francis Schaeffer, Jonathan Edwards, Calvin, Augustine, Martin Lloyd Jones, James Boice
Theirs: Stanley Grenz, Ignatius of Loyola, Karl Barth, Henri Nouen

Old Guys
Ours: J.I. Packer, John Piper, D.A. Carson, C.J. Mahaney, Wayne Grudem, John Macarthur
Theirs: Stanley Hauerwas, N. T. Wright, Stan Grenz, Dallas Willard, Brennan Manning, Jim Wallis

Ours: Classic Hymns and everything else
Theirs: Johnny Cash, Moby etc...

Tie: Guinness (though some of us like root beer and green tea)

Classic Christianity:
Ours: The Apostle Paul, Martin Luther
Theirs: Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King Jr.

Dislikes about Evangelical Christianity
Tie: Left Behind, Joel Osteen, consumerism (Note: they also aren't keen on Hell, Witnessing etc..)

Political Concerns:
Ours: Varied, but I hope to see a continuation of ministry to the homeless, third world nations etc...
Theirs: The same, but they can be rather smug about it at times. A few times, they have been right on AIDS, poverty etc...

Tie: Goatee's and vintage clothing. Though Schaeffer tried to make knickers cool. So close....

The Bible:
Ours: The Infallible Inspired the Incapable to write the Inerrant. Inerrancy and authority of scripture: We believe that the Bible is without error in its original form, and that it is the church's absolute authority for faith and life. We believe that the Bible was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to draw people to faith in Christ and to develop people to become more like him to the Glory of God. Ml 12:26,36; 13:11; Luke 24:27; 2 Tim 3:14-17; 2 Peter 1:19-22 --thanks to paradox church L.A.

Theirs: All Scripture is inspired by God. Eugene Peterson says it like this, “Every part of Scripture is God-breathed and useful.” What this verse does not say is that the Bible is perfect. It does not mean that its not, it just never claims to be. It never claims to have all the answers to every question in life. Timothy just makes the simple, deep, and confident claim that the Bible originated with God and it is useful. It is inspired. It is God-breathed --from iamjoshbrown blog
or-- you love the Bible as a beautiful, inspiring collection of works that lead us into the mystery of God but is not inerrant;

Ours: can be found because it exists because our God is the way the TRUTH and the life.
Theirs: it's all about the search cause I don't think it can be found.

Church Life:
Ours: prayer, memorizing scripture, expository preaching, talking about theology at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf and at BJ's Pizza.
Theirs: prayer labyrinths, candles, Play-Doh, chalk-drawings, couches, or beanbags (your youth group doesn’t count)

Ours: Exposition, Doctrinal, Hermeneutics, apologetics, Penal-Substitution, Sola Scriptura
Theirs: ancient-future, jazz, mosaic, matrix, missional, vintage, and dance

Ours: Hell Yeah!
Theirs: who goes to hell is no one’s business and no one may be there anyway

Ours: Amazing grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me.
Theirs: little to do with atoning for guilt and a lot to do with bringing the whole creation back into shalom with its Maker

I'm sure I missed a few areas. What say you?


  1. Heheh.

    I liked your version better than TIm Challies'.

  2. You can add incarnational living under emergent terminology.